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badhshah 2009-11-23T08:12:00-00:00 2009-11-23T08:12:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5614608

Daytripper > ...

Drewton 2009-11-23T08:00:00-00:00 2009-11-23T08:00:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5614574

Hey Santa...

Grizzley 2009-11-23T07:53:00-00:00 2009-11-23T07:53:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5614504

Is CTT a MYSTERY or HISTORY or MYSTERIOUS HISTORY?

Khan-the-trader 2009-11-23T07:41:00-00:00 2009-11-23T07:41:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613983

Bad. I am right-100%......................

DAYTRIPPER1 2009-11-22T23:01:00-00:00 2009-11-22T23:01:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613966

DT, I hope your are right but at the moment we are in the dark well looking for some sunrays.

badhshah 2009-11-22T22:42:00-00:00 2009-11-22T22:42:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613866

Bad, sights set far too low in my opinion, remember the press, acountants, and ctt will all have estimated on the side of caution, the 850ml black hole is an estimate for imparment charges (NOT AN ACTUAL LOSS), this is not as black as its painted, during 2010/2011 ctt will be unstopable as they compete with the likes of provident etc, the very best of luck to all holders in ctt.

DAYTRIPPER1 2009-11-22T21:27:00-00:00 2009-11-22T21:27:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613461

I invested £900 pure profit.......week before suspension which rose to *nearly* {too much wine} £1800 right before suspension. I'd have rather waited and bet the whole lot on Danyl getting voted off tonigth at 6/1.

MrEasylife 2009-11-22T17:55:00-00:00 2009-11-22T17:55:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613457

I invested £900 pure profit.......week before suspension which rose to never £1800 right before suspension. I'd have rather waited and bet the whole lot on Danyl getting voted off tonigth at 6/1.

MrEasylife 2009-11-22T17:53:00-00:00 2009-11-22T17:53:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613450

in the case of 1% this would only be justified by the impairments eating all our share cap. We don't know how much overkill there was in these imps but in that case why not all imp-related future extraordinary profits to old shareholders, including the reimbursements from the tax man, that surely still is our money...

parkhurst962 2009-11-22T17:48:00-00:00 2009-11-22T17:48:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5613250

Daytripper, 50% dilution I'll accept wholeheartedly but I fear worse than this. We just could end up with only 1% of the equity. Everything is possible.

badhshah 2009-11-22T16:11:00-00:00 2009-11-22T16:11:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5612748

It dosn't matter what fancy titles are used to describe the distribution of money in order to extract a premium. In my view it all boils down to debt management, which is where cattles were sadly lacking.

jacques de montreal 2009-11-22T10:53:00-00:00 2009-11-22T10:53:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5612741

Badhshah, you missed out the most likley outcome imo, the suspension will be lifted, WFS will have been reduced by 70%, the shoppaceck operation will have increased by 200% with a plan in place to carry on increasing the business, there will be dilution, this will be caused by swopping some of the debt for equity, (with banks and bondholders) 50% dilution is what I am going to guess at, and obviously thats what all of this is, a guess brought on by sheer desperation for information and for a conclusion to this horrible mess, I agree there will be an update before the end of the year but I think it will simply say that the extended deadline for the 650ml loans has been extended for another six months, this news will come out on the 29th of december....

DAYTRIPPER1 2009-11-22T10:49:00-00:00 2009-11-22T10:49:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5612712

I don't see the deal as demonstrating interest in debt management. Anacap bought Ruffler Bank with the intention of using it to establish a financial services group. Ruffler has a small leasing business but has already set up Aldermore as a leasing company with a new MD (George Ashworth, Ex-Fortis). They also own Base Commercial Mortgages. Acquistion of an invoice discounting business is a logical extension of the portfolio and is consistent with Anacap's desire to channel those businesses via their bank. In other words, I see this as nothing more than an inter-group transfer.

Watford Herts 2009-11-22T10:35:00-00:00 2009-11-22T10:35:00-00:00 tag:iii.co.uk,2003:tst.5612114

We all don't know what's going to happen to this company. Everything is possible....

badhshah 2009-11-21T19:39:00-00:00 2009-11-21T19:39:00-00:00