DC.L, well that depends on what your average is and what your time scale is and if you can afford to write it off. Personally i would take a pragmatic view.
1) DC is not going bust. (2) The bottom has been found (3) The new leader may change things this year (4) The dividend is quite good (5) You can trade it quite efficiently to lower you average or get out unscathed.
Can't say about the other two, was generally surprised card factory was still in business.
sold out near £2 and have sat and watched for a while, looking to buy back in but will see if the 150 - 160 levels are seen again. Div is not due until August and summer is usually a quite trading period for electricals as people go out more, that said the world cup is this year so who knows.
Barclays report sounds more promising. It's about time we had some good news, so hopefully next week:
"Dixons Carphone (DC.) shares have been nervy ahead of its Christmas trading update, falling nearly 8%. But in its previous results presentation, management talked of a good start to peak trading with a record Black Friday.
"This is encouraging but since then, several companies have reported weak end of December trading," write analysts at Barclays. "We highlight a report from Kantar Worldpanel from January 10th which revealed strong iPhone X sales in the UK during the last quarter."
It's why the broker predicts UK & Ireland like-for-like sales growth of 3%, Nordics 5%, Greece 5% and group sales up 4%.
I did have an idea yesterday to sell ahead of ex-div and buy back today.
The theory being that prices tend to overshoot, so too high pre ex-div and too low post ex-div.
However, I didn't bother in the end. Shares are a gamble and I would have been gambling on the volatility of a gamble.
If I'd gone through with the deal, this morning, I would have just about been at break even (with dividend loss/dealing costs). That's not to say, in different circumstances, I could have been in profit.
A kind of time delayed arbitrage, anybody had any success with this (not just DC.)?
have traded this a little but aim to be in for the long ride back up. The ex-dividend date for this stock is Dec 31st with this and the santa rally which has arrived for the first time in 4 years the price has increased. Expect it to retrace in the new year
Have a good 2018 all
Numis believes the risk-reward outlook for Dixons Carphone (DC) is improving after the electricals retailer posted first-half results in line with forecasts.
Interim profit before tax fell sharply, as expected, and the companys central full-year guidance was trimmed by 5%, said analyst Matthew Taylor.
We expect further profit attrition in mobile but believe this will have a diminishing effect from 2019. Risks remain due to the high-ticket, discretionary product pitch and operational gearing, and the group needs to improve cash flow.
However, in our view the valuation at seven times price-earnings [on 2018 estimates] more than discounts this, at least for more adventurous funds.Taylor rates the shares an add with a 210p target price. The shares jumped 8.5% to 181.6p "
"Just when many investors were about to hang up on LSE:DC.:Dixons Carphone, back came the retailer today with a few reminders why it may not be a lost cause after all.Most significantly in light of the current uncertain trading conditions, the ..."
Currently the share price is around 179.2p and getting quite volatile. So up about 11p so far today. With my limited knowledge I thought that the results and outlook looked quite promising - and that the previous fall in the share price had been overdone on the basis of these results. I am beginning to suspect that the shorters might be having to close some positions and are pushing the price higher at the moment. Over £2 in the medium to short term?
Group headline PBT(1) of £61 million (2016/17: £154 million)
o Includes a negative £58m impact year-on-year from a change in receivables revaluations and insurance contract terms as indicated in August
Statutory profit before tax of £42 million (2016/17: £111 million), including non-headline charges of £19 million (2016/17: £43 million). Statutory basic EPS of 3.3p (2016/17: 8.1p)
Group H1 like-for-like revenue(3) up 4%; Q2 like-for-like up 3%; statutory revenue for H1 up 3%
Group H1 electricals like-for-like up 7%, growth across all markets and market share gains
o UK&I electricals like-for-like up 6%
o Nordics like-for-like up 8%
o Greece like-for-like up 7%
UK&I H1 mobile like-for-like down 3%
o Including the impact of delayed iPhone X launch into second half of financial year
Free cash flow(6) of £169 million (2016/17: £64 million) resulting from reduction in capex year-on-year, improved stock management, and favourable timing on working capital
Net debt(7) of £206 million (2016/17: £285 million)
Not traded Dixons since merger but after nearly 50% fall was sucked back in at 179 looking for 200.
Missed 197 intra day and foolishly did not take 193 for profit, too greedy.
Tomorrow bid day, is all the back news in? 50% drop in profits , last cover 2.8 so will Seb cut and screw us or as he got too any shares himself?
Let's hope the news is a bit better on the phone front and confidence in Christmas or will end up waiting a couple of years as at least some divi is better than 0.2%.
Visited my local PC World superstore at 7:00p.m. for a Black Friday deal on a laptop. Despite being virtually empty, no one so much as asked if I needed any help. After half an hour of milling around the power shorted in one part of the store and so I decided to leave. Bought the HP laptop I saw in PCW from Argos online for the same amount. So Dixon's. Never again. As I said it was as good as empty.
The price is down because the CEO said everyone is now keeping their smartphones rather than buying new. When retail sales is core to the business it's obvious the City is not happy about the interim statement. Institutional shareholders at the AGM were very upset with the CEOs poor outlook based on pure speculation. It was anticipated that sales of iPhone would bump the price up immediately the CEO advised but even this hadn't materialised yet. His anti-Brexit stance also worries many because it seems he won't adapt his business model either. Time for this CEO to go, after all he wanted to go to ITV anyway.
"Dixons Carphone (LSE:DC.)With all the usual nonsense about the release of a new iPhone, we thought it may prove worthwhile to view how one of the mobile outlets' share prices is doing. Not so great, it turns out. But the changes may ring soon. ..."
" DIXONS CARPHONE (LSE:DC.) With all the usual nonsense about the release of a new iPhone, we thought it may prove worthwhile to view how one of the mobile outlets share price is doing. Not so great, it turns out. But the changes may ring soon. ..."
Totally agree but with interims not until 13 Dec this
may drift even lower over next 3-4 weeks. P/E less than
6 (historic less than 5). Dividend yield over 7% and that should still
be over twice covered on the lower PBT range. Market must think
UK sales have fallen off a cliff since the August update.
"Investec has upgraded its stance on Dixons Carphone to buy from hold, keeping the price target at 185p.
The brokerage noted the stock has been down on the back of worries about downgrades, but said that any further material downgrades are unlikely, even though the groups first half results are likely to be weak given mobile headwinds and the timing of non-cash P&L adjustments.
Valuation in our view is looking increasingly attractive with recent share price weakness overdone and risk/reward on the upside, it said.
In addition, while uncertainty surrounding mobile is likely to persist, Investec reckons Carphone retains a high degree of flexibility to deal with the challenges it faces.
The brokerage expects first-half pre-tax profit of £61m, down 58% on the year, with the drop driven in part by last years one-off profit items. On the other side of the ledger, it expects around £14m profit progression across UK Electricals, Nordics & Greece."
After 12 years and a lot of extra shares in big box, talk talk etc (all sold at he time) flogged all mine 3 days ago as I reckon its a lame duck now. £1000 for the I phone X is bonkers, slow death as people cannot afford to upgrade or just do not want to. Has been an excellent cash cow but had enough.
I was in but, now out. I thought the Apple iPhone X would cause more excitement and the ramp up to Christmas. But, anecdotally I have not been into one of their stores for the best part of 10 years. Not even out of curiosity. I can't be the only one feels that way.
The luke-warm take-up of the new iphone you mentioned is for the iphone 8 which to me has very littl more to offer over the iphone 6 I have.
I imagine, like me, most people are waiting for the new iPhone X which is more of a sea-change in iphones that the 8 and should be released in a month or so.
Let's hope the X takes off (I've bought some Apple recently) and drags Dixons up with it...
I'm betting that the recent price drop was overdone and we're heading into the Christmas trading period but to what extent will the luke warm take up of the new iPhone dampen SP recovery? It might not be the only phone or OS which DC sell but as a new Investor here, I haven't got a feel as to how tightly the SP tracks the fortunes of Apple. Any thoughts?
At current prices there is not much chance of losing money. About a year ago brokers were recommending the stock at more than double the price.
The selling has been overdone, bad news is factored in, the business has been rationalised, there is a decent dividend with the only thing remaining is a share buyback programme which the board should consider.
If the latest batch of mega expensive new phones take off, then surely this must give a boost to DC.? Could this be the reason for the small rise today or have the sellers run out of interest? If the share price does bounce, it will be interesting to see if many stop loss buys for leveraged short positions get activated: once the ball gets going the share price can get a momentum of its own.
Just bought 1400 shares thinking that all the bad news is priced in and the results due in two days time may provide a little relief.
The main man is out and the search for a new one is underway.
roll on xmas.
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