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and its still only June. Almost doubling the number of products available.
Dragon, if it wasn't for that pesky conspiracy I bet the SP would be much higher |
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just saw your picture..put it away!
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Global just saw your stats , mental! nice one old son
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Global you set a good EG for 45 yr olds and share holders . Your doing more than Moon I reckon ! only kidding Steve , but please get on with it. 3 years mainly under water now a steady climb is due. Moan over I will go back to lurking.
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I originally bought Swansons FF capsules. When I gave them away to a friend, I noticed that my running became harder work and I was more out of breath, making it less enjoyable and more of a chore. I thought the FF may have been helping, but couldn't be sure.
I've recently purchased Brickerlabs Optiflow and so far, my running seems to be much easier and more enjoyable. I will be testing it more, but at the moment, I am convinced it makes a huge difference. My friend never really used the FF capsule I gave her, so I have told her about my experience and she is gonna give them a try to see if they make any difference to her. New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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...well as my SIS is getting on a bit now, it will be sufficient to be able to push a wheelchair!
Would be handy though if you have a big basket on yer bike! Good evening from a barmy Bantam in balmy Bradford! |
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| Tue 16:49 |
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stats ... just love em .... that's a lot of SiS ;-)...
good effort tho Global !!... bet you were buzzing :-) R&B Trade this long or short with an interactive markets spread betting or CFD account. |
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Distance 165.8km Total climbing 2,439m Moving Time 06:06:34 av speed 27.1km/h max speed 75.2km/h 1 no. SiS Rego Gel with Fruitflow 4 no SiS Go Bars 1 no SiS mini Go bar 5 no. SiS Go Iso Gel 750ml SiS Electrolyte drink 750ml SiS Go Energy drink 1500ml SiS Rego Recovery drink fully recovered today but a little sore yesterday - nothing too bad. |
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16mph average nice ;-) ... what was total ascent ? ...
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Well done Global, that's some going
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I got the email too. I've just responded positively - would like to see how they do things. Not sure if I mentioned that this months Cyclist had a long article on how Science in Sport make their gels.
I have just come back from Snowdonia where I was doing the Etape Eryri - 100 miles around Snowdon. Finished in 6 hours 17 mins. 81st of 407 riders (35th out of 88 riders between 40 and 50 years old). SiS fueled of course and had a bit of a struggle in the middle but satisfied with my performance. I'm 45 and 74kg and from London |
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1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK April 2010
2/ SWANSONS capsules August 2011 3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA Sept 2011 4/Biocol Flow ampules Nov 2011 contributed £ 5779 march 2012 1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK April 2010 2/ SWANSONS capsules August 2011 3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA Sept 2011 4/Biocol Flow ampules Nov 2011 5/Flyhidrate New Zealand. April 2012 6/ Thromboflow Sept 2012 7/Langers tomato juice + sept 2012 Contributed £11343 Sept 2012 1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK April 2010 2/ SWANSONS capsules August 2011 3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA Sept 2011 4/Biocol Flow ampules Nov 2011 5/Flyhidrate New Zealand. April 2012 6/ Thromboflow Sept 2012 7/Langers tomato juice + sept 2012 8/ Wellness Shot Oct 2012 9/ OptiFlow November 2012 10/ SiS REGO + FRUITFLOW GEL January 2013 11/Red Beet Vinitrox, sports drink January 2013 12//L&A Juice March 2013? to contribute ???? march 2013 1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK April 2010 2/ SWANSONS capsules August 2011 3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA Sept 2011 4/Biocol Flow ampules Nov 2011 5/Flyhidrate New Zealand. April 2012 6/ Thromboflow Sept 2012 7/Langers tomato juice + sept 2012 8/ Wellness Shot Oct 2012 9/ OptiFlow November 2012 10/ SiS REGO + FRUITFLOW GEL January 2013 11/Red Beet Vinitrox, sports drink January 2013 12//L&A Juice March 2013? 13/ OptiFlow FF2 capsules. May 2013 14/Circulease FF2 capsules May 2013 15/ Tomaflow FF1 May 2013 16/ Thrombalance May 2013 17/ Thromboflow FF2 capsule so far, will contribute Sept 2013 accelerating Dragon Trade this long or short with an interactive markets spread betting or CFD account. |
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1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK April 2010
2/ SWANSONS capsules August 2011 3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA Sept 2011 4/Biocol Flow ampules Nov 2011 5/Flyhidrate New Zealand. April 2012 6/ Thromboflow Sept 2012 7/Langers tomato juice + sept 2012 8/ Wellness Shot Oct 2012 9/ OptiFlow November 2012 10/ SiS REGO + FRUITFLOW GEL January 2013 11/Red Beet Vinitrox, sports drink January 2013 12//L&A Juice March 2013? 13/ OptiFlow FF2 capsules. May 2013 14/Circulease FF2 capsules May 2013 15/ Tomaflow FF1 May 2013 16/ Thrombalance May 2013 17/ Thromboflow FF2 capsule https://shop.wolz.de/thromboflow-dr-wolz-46.html COMING SOON, CRITICAL MASS European supplement marketer Possibly CoronarFlow* Another SiS product FlyFitFlow, flight drink Athlete, Sports Drink? FF2 NutriHEART & Cardio bar, chocolate FF2 Flyhidrate Travelers Helper CoronarFlow the first soft gelatine capsule containing Fruitflow® Ascent GEL http://www.i-newswire.com/boise-idaho-good-cacao-llc-creator/219935 *according to latest update 28/03/13 six customers in international markets with expected FF2 products. the 1st from Taiwan in april, http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn:PXS.L&display=news&it=le Dragon |
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http://www.provexis.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fruitflow-Products-in-the-Market.pdf
1/ SIRCO fruit juice UK www.sircoheart.com April 2009 was announce feb but didnt go on sale till april 1 Litre carton and 250 ml bottle 2/ SWANSONS capsules www.swansonvitamins.com http://www.swansonvitamins.co.uk/airtravel.htm August 2011 3/ Bloodfruit syrup USA www.healthyhabitsweb.com/product_info.php?osCsid=14jfmlpgkhsbu8an8vchnnno56&cPath=36&products_id=1102 Sept 2011 4/Biocol Flow ampules http://www.biocolflow.com/#/homepage http://www.nouvellesante.pt/ http://www.behance.net/gallery/Biocol-Flow/2302676?utm_source=network&utm_medium=project_footer&utm_campaign=project_footer_references Nov 2011 5/Flyhidrate New Zealand www.flyhidrate.com/ http://www.flyhidrate.com/media-and-articles.html April 2012 6/ Thromboflow Product of the year award 2013 Dr. Wols Thromboflow https://www.facebook.com/Dr.Wolz http://www.wolz.de/produkte/herz-kreislauf/thromboflow-dr-wolz.html Sept 2012 7/ Langers Tomato Juice plus Fruitflow L&A TomatoJuice http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fruitflow-featured-in-new-langers-tomato-juice-plus-to-promote-cardiovascular-health-173516321.html http://www.langers.com/Products/products.htm http://www.facebook.com/pages/LA-Juice-Company/146234482106806 8/ Wellness Shot http://bodyworksforme.com/?/shop/view/well Oct 2012 9/ OptiFlow http://www.brickerlabs.com/product-p/28032.htm November 2012 10/ SiS REGO + FRUITFLOW GEL http://www.scienceinsport.com/sis-products/sis-go-range/sis-go-gels/ January 2013 11/Red Beet Vinitrox http://www.sponser.ch/g3.cms/s_page/79200/s_name/productdetail1/s_level/10980/s_product/1565 http://www.sponser.ch/g3.cms/s_page/77930/newsID/527 January 2013 12/L&A Tomato Juice March2013? http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fruitflow-featured-in-new-langers-tomato-juice-plus-to-promote-cardiovascular-health-173516321.html http://www.clarksnutrition.com/shop/product_view.asp?id=314546&StoreID=D9339NK282S92NV700AKHLBD3LHF7NV2&private_product=0 http://www.langers.com/Products/products.htm http://www.facebook.com/pages/LA-Juice-Company/146234482106806 13/ OptiFlow FF2 capsules May 2013 http://www.brickerlabs.com/OptiFlowCapsules-p/28030.htm 14/Circulease FF2 capsules May 2013 http://www.healthspan.co.uk/products/circulease/ 15/ Tomaflow May 2013 http://tomaflow.at/tomaflow.html http://www.meinpharmaversand.de/tomaflow-travel-caps-a8596647.html 16/ Thrombalance May 2013 http://www.nicapur.at/web/produkte/thrombalance150 http://goo.gl/YO8OA 17/ Thromboflow FF2 capsule https://shop.wolz.de/thromboflow-dr-wolz-46.html COMING SOON European supplement marketer ff1 http://www1.axisto.co.uk/webcasting/investis/provexis/interim-results-2012 is this them? CoronarFlow the first soft gelatine capsule containing Fruitflow® http://www.vitafoods.eu.com/page.cfm/Action=library/libID=3/listID=1/libEntryID=44 http://www.aenova.de/en/home.html FlyFitFlow http://www.vitalithealth.com/ http://www.worldtravelcateringexpo.com/Visiting/Show-highlights/ "Vitalit Laboratories is the Global # 1 brand in the market for Fatigue Solutions. We develop truly healthy products, based solely on pure and natural Superfruit ingredients increasing your fitness at those key moments when you need it most." Athlete https://www.facebook.com/Professionalathletenutrition?ref=stream http://www.facebook.com/Professionalathletenutrition/posts/358980427519187?comment_id=48950066¬if_t=feed_comment_reply Travelers Helper http://www.usoat.com/traveler-helper.php http://www.usoat.com/fruitflow.php chocolate with FF2 http://www.goodcacao.com/products_good_superfoods.html "NutriHEART A all-natural, non-GMO blend of NutriTRIENOL, Pycnogenol®, FruitFlow®, NSK-SD®, and CocoaNOURISH - NutriHEART ingredients/ blends have b New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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It's the powder version
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Its significantly more expensive than the stick , are they FF1 and as this is more expensive is it FF2?. Its a new product either way, and the sticks are still available.
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thanks for that. Yes i know things will get better!
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pep, do us all a favour and stop asking questions and then ignoring any response.
I must say your postings are rubbish by the way. Nothing of interest and ill-informed conjecture. Colbalt over and out until July. New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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just the 5 figure investment for me Peppa (and it would take a fair while to see a six figure investment)but it saddens and concerns me to see such stanch supporters as yourself getting down on the situation , yes its taken waaaay longer than we hoped and in hindsight (always easy) i wish id 'played the game' a couple of times as some seem to have done (well done imo)
But im still here and will still add and make a few quid eventually even if it is in the form of a worst case scenario buy out or whatevers round the corner,but it was always money i could afford to lose (not saying that i want to lose it!) So i hedged my bets and c'est la vie i aint gonna worry about it , lifes to short i have much more important things to worry about , but i have found spending less time on here and just catching up once or twice a day refreshing. Good luck anyhow Peppa things will get better And good luck all |
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I think the sales from SIS will be better than expected, but the margin will be much lower. They have spent considerably buying prime position in sainsburys, and elsewhere, there are also the ambassadors etc. which are not cheap. SIS won`t be contributing for some while
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Hi Redprince.
Dont get me wrong my expectations for this year are extremely modest. Fruitflow I believe will not contribute to the figures, SIS however I think may hold a surprise. I would certainly like to see a reduction in the "exceptionals" and hope that the investment in additional sponsorship and marketing would be showing some positive figures I know it is early days, but I feel the profile of SIS is considerably higher. Personally I invested many years ago in Fruitflow not SIS and I am completely confident in the growth of Fruitflow products and happy to see the rewards in the years ahead. What does frustrate me is the lack of interest from the big investors who will only move on positive profits, even a small movement would be a big step in the right direction. GL Trade this long or short with an interactive markets spread betting or CFD account. |
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Sorry that should read there were 5 Fruitflow products at the time of the interims.
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Redprince, this posting courtesy of Farmgal 30/05/2013. All I would add is that as at the Dec interims for the 6 months ending 30092012 and as at 30032013 there were 11 Fruitflow products earning so it will be very interesting to see what the full 12 months revenue for Fruitflow will be and whether some DSM costs were taken in the early days.
Farmgal 30052013....................................... dunkin m...PXS Revenue from FF is pure profit and goes straight to bottom line and they were 09/10 £14767 PXS direct sales to MM for Sirco. 10/11 £50086 PXS direct sales to MM for Sirco. 11/12 £ 5779 (H1 = £0 and H2 = £5779) MM account turned over to DSM and this was a period when we understand PXS may have been foregoing the revenue from FF as a means of financiing their share of the initial roll out costs. 12/13 £11343 (H1 = £11343 and H2 numbers won't be out until July). So income stream from FF sales are established and they are 100% profitable. SiS is the second income stream for PXS and incomes are healthy and margins high. PXS as a company however has not yet been able to shown an overall profit and the results in July hopefully will show a much reduced loss or if we are extremely lucky breakeven at best. New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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Can't remember seeing this before but I wouldn't be surprised if it was just me missing it.
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From last set of figures i cannot think we could expect anything other than a loss after allowing for the growth in SIS that was running around 20%.Also factor in costs of elite advocacy and other "exceptionals" and we are looking at a loss imho.
FF income will be minute at this stage - next interims before we get an idea what is coming in against FF. What are you expecting and why? |
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Maybe I am niave, but cannot understand the pessimissm surrounding July figures.
We bought a profit making company in SIS, moved away from high cash burn R&D with the consequential saving and now some expect to be in profit in 2014. OK we had some exceptional costs in the early days of SIS, but surely we cannot keep seeing exceptions in the figures, it just not the way business works. Maybe someone could enlighten me, thanks. PS I expect positive figures in July, if not I will not be alone in asking why. Trade this long or short with an interactive markets spread betting or CFD account. |
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No need to put words in my mouth, I don't know how long it's going to take. There could be profit in the next set of results, it could also be in one or two results time, it depends on market penetration. Either way, it's going to happen, it's just a matter of being patient.
Worrying if PXS will be able to hold on to the IP is an entirely invented problem, unless you're equally worried that any other company will lose their IPs in spite of there being no reason to suspect they will. PXS plc have an income stream from SiS, income from fruitflow and an EFF at their disposal. Cashflow isn't going to be a problem for them, so there's going to be no need to sell assets. DSM are in the business of forming partnerships with small companies to make money with them. The last thing they want is a reputation for being difficult to work with or a history of being unfair to their alliance partners by doing things like manipulating the IP into their own hands at knockdown prices. That kind of thing will keep other companies from ever wanting to sign up with them in the future. It's like a the old saying, You don't want to sell a guy a car. You want to sell a guy his next 5 cars. In short, there is nothing to fear from DSM. As CEO and as a shareholder, Stephen Moon has far more to gain by keeping the IP as part of PXS, than from trying to sell it off. Any future R&D, Any future acquisition of IP, any future expansions of SiS will be much easier with a constant, easy , large income stream coming in from FF, so even if you're in the "Moon only cares about SiS" brigade, it still doesn't make sense to think he's going to try and flog off FruitFlow. |
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nope, now just taking the most pessimistic view
Having spent 2 years with the most optimistic outlook, and seeing my 6 figure investment gnawed away. I`ve spent the last 12 months buying more and increasing my holding to an extent where my average is at a reasonable level. I want a return, and will hold until i get it. But i have learnt that even the most pessimistic view often falls short of the reality. If i or anyone posting here now was asked 3 years ago if they were prepared to tie up their money for 5 years before any return was realised then what would the answer have been then ? (including dragon) yes hindsight is wonderful, but reality is very necessary in a share that even at 1.5p is unattractive to new buyers despite all of the massive potential New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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Having a good idea is also standard practice, as is exceeding expectation . Potential income is often written into the sp, where the likely/forecast income is known - -not in this case - some say even the value of SIS to pxs is not reflected.
Your scenario is suggesting around 2 years or so for significant income? You can`t rule out DSM purchasing the IP - everything has a price Inventing a problem? nothing invented there |
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Pep,seems like your mind is very much "set"
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i think we are all expecting a lot from the accounts, which may not deliver much in the way of income this time. The report will as usual be very bullish about how DSM are doing with commercialisation.
We are dealing in small fractions per dose net for us, the current crop of products is unlikely to filter much through to us regardless of the split. We need a "worldy", and very soon! Trade this long or short with an interactive markets spread betting or CFD account. |
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Except peppa didn't invent it, it was invented elsewhere, probably to discourage buying.
Dragon, peppa just fell for it |
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Furthermore,
1) Not knowing how much income a company has made since the last set of published results is actually standard practice for the entire economy. Why be annoyed that you don't have this information for PXS? 2) You know, as well as anyone, that a forecast in the case of PXS is going to be nothing much more than wet finger in the air stuff, because we're dealing with a new and unique product entering the market and any forecast would involve trying to guess how well FF is going to be received multiple products in any number of countries. 3) There is no more reason to expect PXS to fail to hold on to their IP than there is for any other company holding any other IP. If it was standard practice for accounts to contain a "Don't worry, we don't expect to lose any of our IP" statement then you might have reason to bring this up as an issue, but as things are, it just looks like you're inventing a problem for the sake of complaining about it. New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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pep 15:13
"the 2 most basic of question remain unanswerable What is the income now? What is the forecast? Will the company be able to hold on to the ip?" Pep, that's 3 questions! 1) How can we know that? We've only got the accounts to look at in July. The Alliance Agreement is confidential. 2) Perhaps we might get a clue in July but more likely in the interims Dec 2013. 3) Why not?! Maintaining the IP is the only expense PXS now have in respect of Fruitflow. Interims Dec 2012 "Fruitflow® operating costs are now minimal and relate to intellectual property extensions and renewals, therefore as revenues develop, gross margin will be high" |
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The real reason the share price is still in the doldrums is because the market has turned completely risk averse since the crash and provexis, as a loss making company with a new, unproven ingredient, are a risky investment.
Given a few months, when the big income from FF starts rolling in and SiS has grown a bit more, and PXS becomes profit making, you'll see a much higher share price as people trade based on the p/e ratio. If this were 2007 or 2008 then the SP might well be many multiples of what it currently is, just because investors had a lot of cheap credit to throw about in the hope that one of them would make it big. Or maybe it's some grand conspiracy to hold down the share price for DSM (who were most recently selling shares) to be able to buy the company. |
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it will be the same to us if we get none of it
who knows, except you with your special glasses on? Trade this long or short with an interactive markets spread betting or CFD account. |
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"We need endurance athletes"... I'm 43, 14st and like the odd drink or two ... am I an athlete ??
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Yes, this is the view amongst the few readers (left) of this board.
The fact remains the share has been largely ignored by the markets for somewhile. i believe up to 5p ish there will be a high proportion of current investors waiting to bale out. For that to happen its going to take a lot of sustained buying by new investors --not just pi`s there is no sign that those new investors are about, although pxs must be on the radar. The potential is there for all to see, but tangible evidence still some way off. The promise of european marketers and launches in taiwan are meaningless, especially when they don`t happen, despite being told by the CEO. The markets (and us) have seen so many of these false dawns, but the 2 most basic of question remain unanswerable What is the income now? What is the forecast? Will the company be able to hold on to the ip? New £5 frequent trader rate - trade UK shares, investment trusts and ETFs |
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