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<title>Re: Cattles outcome is stll a mystery</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Bad. I am right-100%...................... By DAYTRIPPER1 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:01:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ DT, I hope your are right but at the moment we are in the dark well looking for some sunrays. By badhshah ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:42:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Bad, sights set far too low in my opinion, remember the press, acountants, and ctt will all have estimated on the side of caution, the 850ml black hole  is  an estimate for imparment charges (NOT AN ACTUAL LOSS), this is not as black as its painted, during 2010/2011 ctt will be unstopable as they compete with the likes of provident etc, the very best of luck to all holders in ctt. By DAYTRIPPER1 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:27:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Safer betting on X-factor</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I invested &pound;900 pure profit.......week before suspension which rose to *nearly* {too much wine} &pound;1800 right before suspension. I'd have rather waited and bet the whole lot on Danyl getting voted off tonigth at 6/1. By MrEasylife ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:55:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Safer Betting on X-factor</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I invested &pound;900 pure profit.......week before suspension which rose to never &pound;1800 right before suspension. I'd have rather waited and bet the whole lot on Danyl getting voted off tonigth at 6/1. By MrEasylife ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ in the case of 1% this would only be justified by the impairments eating all our share cap. We don't know how much overkill there was in these imps but in that case why not all imp-related future extraordinary profits to old shareholders, including the reimbursements from the tax man, that surely still is our money<br>
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park962 By parkhurst962 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:48:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Daytripper, 50% dilution I'll accept wholeheartedly but I fear worse than this. We just could end up with only 1% of the equity. Everything is possible. By badhshah ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:11:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ It dosn't matter what fancy titles are used to describe the distribution of money in order to extract a premium. In my view it all boils down to debt management, which is where cattles were sadly lacking. By jacques de montreal ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Badhshah, you missed out the most likley outcome imo, the suspension will be lifted, WFS will have been reduced by 70%, the shoppaceck operation will have increased by 200% with a plan in place to carry on increasing the business, there will be dilution, this will be caused by swopping some of the debt for equity, (with banks and bondholders) 50% dilution is what I am going to guess at, and obviously thats what all of this is, a guess brought on by sheer desperation for information and for a conclusion to this horrible mess, I agree there will be an update before the end of the year but I think it will simply say that the extended deadline for the 650ml loans has been extended for another six months, this news will come out on the 29th of december.<br>
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All of this is sheer uninformed uneducated speculative fantasy, just so nobody needs to remind me. By DAYTRIPPER1 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:49:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ I don't see the deal as demonstrating interest in debt management. Anacap bought Ruffler Bank with the intention of using it to establish a financial services group. Ruffler has a small leasing business but has already set up Aldermore as a leasing company with a new MD (George Ashworth, Ex-Fortis). They also own Base Commercial Mortgages. Acquistion of an invoice discounting business is a logical extension of the portfolio and is consistent with Anacap's desire to channel those businesses via their bank. In other words, I see this as nothing more than an inter-group transfer. By Watford Herts ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:35:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ We all don't know what's going to happen to this company. Everything is possible.<br>
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It could come back without any dilution<br>
It could come back 100% own by banks and bondholders<br>
It could come back with a little percentage left for the current shareholders and mostly own by the banks and bondholders<br>
It could go into administration<br>
It could come back without WFS<br>
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One thing is for sure and that is there will be some kind of update before 31/12/2009. So not too long to go now before we are going learn the future of this company.<br>
 By badhshah ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:39:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ advert in my local paper for collectors<br>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ O/T I believe all the holders in ctt have gone through a big horrible black hole and have come out in 1970...look at the one year volume chart...<img src="/i/discussions/emoticons/smile.gif"><br>
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not a holder but did have a look at 27p yikes!<br>
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c1 By  c1my1k ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Just goes to show how much interest there is in debt management during these hard times. I hope cattles hangs on to its other subsiduaries and reorganises them into properly functioning units.<br>
I've stopped being disapointed with the lack of news. Let the new team do what has to be done and take as much time as they must, hopefully to secure a future for this company. Although I have to say that I can't wait to see any restructuring package that may be put in front of us and working out my next move. Sell? sell half? top up if their for peanuts? Loose the lot and keep the loss to set against future profits? I'd bet against the the last one, but who knows???   <br>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:38:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ cocoye, yes read that yesterday, dont really see that it has any bearing on our situation though, good night,..........ebaneeza.  ps my new prediction for news is 30/12/09 @ 07:50. By DAYTRIPPER1 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:57:00 GMT</pubDate>
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