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<title>Re: update and advice anyone</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Just been through the accounts again and cannot feel very positive given the refinancing problems and the still large management costs that take any profit out of the company even though they are at a discount - take AUMP at a 80% discount<br>
Farmerdave By farmerdave ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:44:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>update and advice anyone</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Have had a load of these shares for ages and am now panicking about their slow drift down over time. Any advice on what to do..especially since I don't understand this busines of the company disposing of assets over time and how we as shareholders ultimately benefit. Any comments appreciated. By kemac ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:39:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Volatility</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I bought some more of these on Friday at 28.75p, as they were caught up on the extraordinary volatility of the markets. Assuming property values remain constant in nominal terms (i.e. don't grow in line with inflation), and constant income, this may result in a gain of about 96% if they manage to sell their properties as that price. Simultaneously, there is enough of a buffer agains down-side risks. By mark20690 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:57:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Disposal and Debt Reduction</title>
<description><![CDATA[ The boost from reduced finance costs puts this share at a p/e of around 14 if we only consider operating income. This is expensive and demonstrates that the business model of these companies is no longer viable because of punitive financing costs. However, this means there will be about 2.5p of operating profit per annum supporting the valuation while the company is being wound down, adding about 8p to NAV over three years. By mark20690 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:15:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Disposal and Debt Reduction</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Positive RNS issued on Monday. By Wynford2 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:41:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Help with this RNS please - warrants</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Think that that's all they are going to be worth Krayl.<br>
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CN By Chard Nick ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:34:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Correction: Dilemma</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Disregard my previous post: I got the realisation fee totally wrong. The following should be correct: <br>
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IERE is trading at 40% discount right now (at 31p). In addition, in three years, net operating profit will add about 6-10p per share. They will save some money in management fees and interest payments but they may incur some break fees. In addition, there is the realisation fee for the managers of 12.5 for all sales above current market capitalization, which will be about 2.5p per share. So let's say conservatively they have to sell the properties for 90% current NAV which I think is pessimistic, and there will be no increase in three years. That will give us about 51p in this this quite negative scenario which would still be a gain of about 64%. If on the other hand, they can sell at 110% current valuation, that would give us a gain of almost 100%. Conclusion: If I was not already in this share, I'd buy into it in conjunction with MERE. By mark20690 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:33:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Dilemma</title>
<description><![CDATA[ IERE is trading at 40% discount right now (at 31p). In addition, in three years, net operating profit will add about 6-10p per share. They will save some money in management fees and interest payments but they may incur some break fees. In addition, there is the realisation fee for the managers of 12.5 for all sales above current market capitalization, which will be about 13p per share. So let's say conservatively they have to sell the properties for 90% current NAV which I think is pessimistic, and there will be no increase in three years. That will give us about 42p in this this quite negative scenario which would still be a gain of about 37%. If on the other hand, they can sell at 110% current valuation, that would give us around 53p (a 70% gain). Conclusion: If I was not already in this share, I'd buy into it in conjunction with MERE. By mark20690 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:26:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Dilemma</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I am in a similar position to Nick. My main holdings of IERP and MERE are selling up. <br>
IFD is paying a decent div, but this is more than it is earning in income. Divs or nav will go down in the short term until tenants with rent free terms end. Mark's posts on the IFD bb are worth reading. <br>
I do like London based property however, so I think Workspace, London &amp; Stamford, Grainger and Inland are worth investigating, and QED if you like a gamble. <br>
For what its worth, I am in most of the above, but I think I might just sit on cash dividends for the summer and see what happens come September. <br>
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 By Dingledangle ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:32:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Dilemma</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I hold all of these (apart from AUMP) but my biggest holding is in IFD (which I reckon is actually on a 32% discount to NAV) and I think that it is the best buy. It has the high dividend and a real chance of capital appreciation - particularly if it follows the new trend of realising assets. By Krayl ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:11:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Help with this RNS please - warrants</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I bought the warrants some time ago for an average price of 8.6p so am now just in profit. I think if they got to 12p I would be happy. By Krayl ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:02:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Dilemma</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Should I buy some IERE at 32p (above my limit price) or should I look for opportunities elsewhere?<br>
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I see that AXA Property is on a 30% discount and paying about 6% in dividends, IERE's stablemate IFD is on a 22% discount and yielding 9% and PCTN is on a 15% discount and yielding 7.8%.  All of these are paying dividends whereas it looks like we will now get capital repayments.<br>
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If I were looking for the biggest discount then AUMP at 60%+ might be a possibility, but there's a share consolidation due for completion tomorrow and I've been bitten by this share (in its CHI guise) many times previously.<br>
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I guess it's not too big a problem to have.  Only wish I'd bought back in to IERE when the SP started to rise...<br>
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CN By Chard Nick ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Help with this RNS please - warrants</title>
<description><![CDATA[ So, what are the warrants now worth?<br>
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If, and it's a big &quot;if&quot; IMHO, the ordinary shares repay close to the NAV of 51p then the warrants are in theory going to be worth 22p (51p less the 29p exercise price).  However, I doubt that we will ever see the warrant price hitting this level.  The reason I say this is that when they start repaying shareholders, the NAV of the remaining company will fall and hence so will the maximum value of the warrants - unless the company adjusts the exercise price.  Now that would be an interesting scenario...<br>
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CN By Chard Nick ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:51:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Help with this RNS please</title>
<description><![CDATA[ If you believe there's a 70% upside nailed on you should be buying the warrants. I hope you get it but I think it's far from certain. By Div Hunter ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:37:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Help with this RNS please</title>
<description><![CDATA[ GT3fund - Good to see you have carried out the research to support your investment. I dont kinow which countries these commercial properties are or in what sectors they are leased to, which will determine how good an investment they are. Naturally there will be some fallout in the eurozone given the current and ongoing geo-political backdrop. Rising interest rates and inflation will take its toll. Investors have to ask themselves why IERE has decided to dispose of the portfolio. You may get your bite of the cherry, but only after the fee earners and bankers receive theirs. By tradewise ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:46:00 GMT</pubDate>
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