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<title>Re: DEBT RENEWAL ON REITS</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Yep, that will always hold true. Cheers. By badnews ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: DEBT RENEWAL ON REITS</title>
<description><![CDATA[ badnews - You pay your money and you take your choice. Good Luck!!! By Rober01 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:15:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ I think that you could say this about any company, not just commercial property trusts. Picton, for one, has a AAA rating, so it has a very good chance of success when it comes to renewal. If it is forced to sell some property, then so be it - the discount to NAV  I paid to buy in gives me downside protection in the unlikely event that this happens.<br>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:41:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: DIVIDEND AT RISK</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Rober:<br>
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I am not disputing your reasoning - so what does your analysis show is the best buy? By Krayl ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 15:45:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ I have FCPT as well. Dividend is smaller, but monthly. Making some nice aquisitions as well. By JDread ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Krayl - I think the quality and length of property companies loan covenants are the key thing here.  If loans are shortly up then in the current climate this may lead to difficulties in renewal leading to forced sales..  If they go belly up dividend cover will not matter. By Rober01 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>On second thoughts....</title>
<description><![CDATA[ For a large income over the next two years I would go for MERE and HPEQ - both liquidating their assets. By Krayl ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: DIVIDEND AT RISK</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I have all three of these of these which I hold for income, and hopefully will eventually see some capital gain. My calculations are as follows:<br>
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           Dividend, Cover, Discount<br>
IFD         11.2%,   0.8,    33%<br>
PCTN    11.1%,   1.1,    43%<br>
IRP        10.8%,   0.9,    17% <br>
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There is nothing to choose between them on dividend but on dividend cover and discount it looks like Picton is the one to go for.<br>
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Purely for income (not in the property sector) I would personally go for ILH.<br>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Picton and IFD looking interesting with a better Dividend cover and greater discount to NAV By badnews ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:20:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Got to keep buying this. Even if they cut the dividend by 50%, which I don't believe they will, that's still 5%.<br>
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Buy and hold. By JDread ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:30:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: DIVIDEND AT RISK</title>
<description><![CDATA[ I switched into sxx at 21p. That is a net gain as far as i am aware sonny. By Divmad ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:05:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ You bought high, sold low. The only people you improve the wealth of are those around you who buy low and sell high. By badnews ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:44:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ I'm out. Held for a year or more but I don't like what I see and the clouds on the horizon in Europe. Big black clouds. By Divmad ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:02:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for your post TX2. I have been studying the Annual Report (specifically page 20 of the pdf version) to try and decide what the operating profit is.<br>
In thousands of &pound;s, the profit on rental activities after tax is 3684 which is 3.3p/share. However there is a write-down of 1705 for property valuation which would make the operating profit 5389 or 4.9p per share (2010 5.3p). I think this is the most realistic figure to take.<br>
This year there is also a profit on cash hedging which adds 1429 to make the overall profit 6818 or 6.2p/share (2010 1.4p). <br>
This is all against a dividend of 7.2p per share. It is difficult to see how this is sustainable.<br>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:50:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: DIVIDEND AT RISK</title>
<description><![CDATA[ It is not quite as bad as it seems because you have first to remember that property companies work out their profit &amp; loss accounts in a different way from normal companies.It is an accounting requirement under accounting rules and in my opinion not a particularly good one but listed companies are required to use it.<br>
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Basically property companies have to revalue their properties prior to publishing results and any increase in value of their portfolio is added to the surplus or net rental income after deducting expenses to reach the published profit figure and conversely any reduction in portfolio valuation has to be deducted from the net rental income to reach the final profit figure.<br>
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The result of this is when property is increasing in value you get a very high apparent profit figure and when property is decreasing in value you get a low profit figure.<br>
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Earnings were high here last year because the companies portfolio substantially increased in value and this increase was added to profits;this year its properties fell back in value and the decrease in value had to be deducted from profits.<br>
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The figure to look at is net rental income because in the final analysis this is the money that pays the dividends.The company is overpaying to some extent,and has being even in previous years,if you count only net rental income but by a much lesser amount than indicated,if it paid dividends out of net income it could probably pay about 5.75p divi.Expenses were probably higher this year because the company purchased a number of properties.<br>
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 By TX2 ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:21:00 GMT</pubDate>
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