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<description><![CDATA[ Naive and condescending?  No, just reality, shame you don't like it.  Not going to bother posting on this board again, not worth the effort of being criticised by ex-PDG staff with an axe to grind. By Eventrollsloverocknroll ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ i would love to know what magical jobs in sales are higher in the food chain than the car trade ?<br>
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estate agents i suppose ?<br>
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or supermarkets ? because food/house/car seem to be the 3 main areas of buting i would consentrate on, oh and nice clothes. but what in 2009 is really gonna take the pennies from peeps hands ?<br>
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outsider looking in great, keep looking mr troll.<br>
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you got it all wrong.<br>
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by the way my expextation's (only from studying pdg over the 12 months daily btw ) is that we will see the resurge relaspe at a rate of about half a penny a day.<br>
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if we dont see pdg at 23p by xmas i will honestly be amazed.<br>
long term (march 2010) this share is 50p plus but just not yet.<br>
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rns wasnt good enough guys......<br>
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re-inventing the wheel isnt needed just a non auto trade retail guru to injest a bit of hope and or direction.<br>
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DYOR please just click ignore if you dont like what you read. By halfers ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:39:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ I'm with you on this on expen&#133;&#133;. I find Rock's comments naive and condescending. <br>
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Many people do leave the motor trade for other industries but many also stay and flourish and develop into professional managers going on to run highly successful businesses in terms of customer satisfaction and profitability. <br>
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Along they way they quickly learn that one of the secrets of success is their staff, both motivation and loyalty, key areas that are woefully neglected by PDG.<br>
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I know several of these professional motor trade managers who have done very well for themselves financially after starting out as humble salesmen (or women), indeed remind me didn't TF and MC themselves start out as such and despite some of the opinions on here, they haven&#146;t done too badly for themselves have they?<br>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Pendragon spend &pound;500 on every new starter on FSA training.....multiply that with amount of new starters across group each month.....by good leadership and motivation sales execs will stay, they do with the other big players and they do with the company i am with....why? we pay well, we encourage our staff, we treat fairly, we motivate them so they enjoy coming to work, this also comes across to our customers, hence we enjoy a good customer satisfaction report...to say car sales is a entry into better sales job i find rather insulting. <br>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:12:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ As an outsider looking into the industry with what you'd class a layman's view, high staff turnover is pretty much what I'd expect.  Sales jobs always have high turnover.  Car sales is an entry into a better sales job for most people, so it's higher than most.  What do you think turnover is like in most office jobs? Based on bums on seats I've seen 114 % turnover in a financial year in one firm I've been in to.   There are loads of reasons to leave a company, and simply posting you feel it's down management is not constructive or informative, just negative. By Eventrollsloverocknroll ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:57:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ oh and just to let you know...the salesman who was given the scrap vehicle on tuesday evening.....resigned today.....i rest my case.... By ex pendragon ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:36:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ they employ him and empower him to run the sales department....my question is this, how typical is this of mangers within the group...if he cant do a simple task like ensuring there is a road worth vehicle for the salesman to go home in how is he capable of running a sales team... By ex pendragon ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:30:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ expendragon<br>
I presume if he sold a few cars on his first day, he may have got a &quot;newer&quot; car. Seriously, surely it was down to the sales manager to make sure he had a decent, roadworthy car to go home in. I am no fan of Pendragon having worked for them twice due to takeovers and got out quick, but even they cannot be blamed for this stupidity.<br>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:10:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ if they new they had a new starter, why didnt they organise a vehicle for him...answers please on a post card<br>
Mr M Casha (do as i say)<br>
Lost in Loxley<br>
Nottgotaclue<br>
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yes i know not my best post,<br>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:25:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Fair point Rock, she could have picked him up, but as she had taken a days holiday from work she would not have been able to drop him off again the next day, so I guess they decided to to risk the banger, especially as he had been promised a brand new Megane would be ready for him the next day. By strapedstone ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:16:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ it really doesnt matter if you do or dont, i have never stated how he arrived at the garage in the morning, nor is it relevant, the fact is i have checked out the story and it is factual..why the salesman was daft enough to accept a C registered car i cant explain...<br>
there are many more issues i could raise about the poor standard of man management of this group,<br>
look at there staff turnover, ask the question why do so many staff leave after an average of 90 days, they all cant be rotten sales, service staff...its all about motivation, leadership, something that seems sadly lacking at the moment.<br>
Mr Finn can stand up and give his usuall rally call to the institutions about how good things are getting, but with out troops the genrals cant win the war...Vertu. Sytner, and watch for Marshall Motor Group, they will start picking up sites and area markets that the Dragon will lose<br>
Mr finn talking to the shareholders reminds me of a Dell Trotter saying, &quot;this time next year we will be millionares&quot; keep dreaming Trevor By ex pendragon ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:06:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Well then why did she not come back for him, far more logical than allegedly driving a 25 yr old car.  You seem to have put some decent stuff on here but I just don't believe that one. By Eventrollsloverocknroll ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:38:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Holding up well</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Citigroup reiterated teir buy stance yesterday<br>
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Seems to be holding up well today with some good size buys<br>
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It seems some ex employees on here don't like the company!!  I think prospects are good.<br>
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If they are working staff harder then maybe its a good thing alot of businesses have had staff coasting for too long!<br>
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I'm sure I'll get shot down for this post!<br>
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Ps. If the story is true ref the guy in Leeds then thats wrong and i do feel for him By jarrow sparrow ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:14:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ please phone the dealership, Renault in Leeds By ex pendragon ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:46:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Rocknrolla, what a vivid and creative imagination you have. <br>
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However I believe the answer the answer to your quandary is far more one dimensional...... His wife dropped him off. By strapedstone ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:11:00 GMT</pubDate>
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