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<title>Re: SKG Valuation</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Interesting post Wexboy. The company is performing well. Margins are impressive and it is clearly generating tons of cash. Its recent performance is making me consider cashing in but i think its got a bit to grow. I've also covered it in my blog this morning <A HREF="http://twitinvestor.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=384&amp;action=edit" onclick="return redirectcheck('http://twitinvestor.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=384&amp;action=edit')" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://twitinvestor.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=384&amp;action=edit</A> By EoinHouly ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Hi folks,<br>
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Just posted Part V of The Great Irish Share Valuation Project, including valuation and some commentary about Smurfit Kappa:<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Wexboy By Wexboy ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Massively undervalued</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Smurfit Kappa Group made &#128; 394 million in free cash flow last year. That's &#128; 1.78 a share. That's pretty amazing.<br>
My fair value for SKG: &#128; 19.7 (up from &#128; 16.2). By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:07:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ What fantastic results! 69% rise. Hope it moves the sp! By Flatly ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:44:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Smurfit Kappa may bounce in 2012</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Independent.ie<br>
16 december 2011<br>
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Shares in Irish packaging group Smurfit Kappa will rebound in 2012 if the company successfully refinances a chunk of debt in the new year, Davy stockbrokers has predicted.<br>
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Shares in Europe's largest market of cardboard boxes have been hammered in recent months as the debt crisis in Europe continued to unfold. But Davy reckons the underperformance of Smurfit Kappa's stock relative to its peers is unwarranted, even given the cut in profit forecasts. Shares in the company are down about 42pc in the year to date and have fallen 55pc since June.<br>
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&quot;The market still seems to have doubts about the company's ability to refinance the debt maturing in 2013 and 2014,&quot; noted Davy analyst Barry Dixon. &quot;The bond market has no such concerns, with Smurfit Kappa's bonds recovering strongly from the weakness in June and now trading at close to par,&quot; he added.<br>
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Mr Dixon said he thinks it's possible the company can refinance the maturing debt at a &quot;manageable incremental cost&quot; given the low inter-bank rates and the company's gross cash balances. Mr Dixon has an 'outperform' rating on the stock with an &#128;8 price target. By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>"Strong cash flows through the cycle"</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Businessandfinance.ie<br>
1 DEC 2011<br>
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Following the announcement of the Q3 figures Gary McGann (CEO) said:<br>
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&quot;Over the past four years, we have strengthened our business platform through significant debt paydown and unrelenting cost reduction actions, which will sustain the delivery of strong cash flows and improving returns through the cycle. We are committed to continue building our strong market credentials in the areas of packaging innovation, customer service and sustainability. In that context, despite softening demand, we expect to deliver a full-year 2011 EBITDA performance in line with current market expectations, and re-affirm our target to reduce net debt to &#128;2.85bn by the year end.&quot; By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:43:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Interesting. Where are you getting this info from Walton? If the price of recycled paper is down surely input prices at recycled mills will be down also? I notice at least 50% of FY2010 T/O is to drink, food and other non cyclical consumer products. That's slightly reassuring anyway. By EoinHouly ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:56:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ More bad news for the industry... recycled paper prices down yet again today by average &#128;25 per tonne which will mean lower returns at the mill network... nil price increase in the corrugated network and lower corrugated prices next year.<br>
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No-one in the industry will get anywhere near their EBITDA target this year and next years will be marked lower still for sure.<br>
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Very short profit increase cycle this time and could be outlived by the downturn. The industry is in for a difficult period just before SKG needs some large refinancing. By Walton le Daler ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:18:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ Beware... in one of SKG's most profitable countries EBITDA was 18% below budget for the month of October and that takes no account of the affect of lower paper prices on the companies EBITDA for the year... things are turning very tough again in the Corrugated market. By Walton le Daler ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:16:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ DAVY RESEARCH<br>
10 October 2011<br>
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The outlook for economic growth continues to deteriorate in Europe with consensus GDP for the region now standing at 1.7% for 2011 (1% for 2012). Containerboard prices have declined by up to &#128;40/tonne since July, reflecting the impact of potentially slower demand and rising inventory levels. Corrugated prices, in our view, have yet to reflect this weakness but are likely to do so in 2012 if demand conditions remain subdued. We are therefore adjusting our 2012 forecasts for Smurfit Kappa Group to reflect this likelihood. <br>
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Our previous forecasts had already assumed a benign demand environment in Europe in 2012 with no volume growth. We had also assumed flat corrugated prices, which looks optimistic in the current environment. We are now forecasting that corrugated prices will fall by c.3% in 2012, largely reflecting the recent decline in containerboard prices. We also assume that OCC prices decline by a further &#128;10/tonne from current levels to close to &#128;130/tonne. This results in 2012 EBITDA of &#128;1,027m versus our previous forecast of &#128;1,074m (-4%). We are leaving our 2011 forecasts unchanged at &#128;1,042m. <br>
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It now appears that the current up-cycle has ended prematurely. This implies that peak EBITDA in the current cycle will be below the peak of &#128;1,064m achieved in the last cycle in 2007. This is disappointing given the &#128;300m cost-saving programme successfully implemented by the company over the 2008-2010 period and the additional &#128;150m cost programme currently being implemented. <br>
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What is impressive about the above is the group's continuing strong cash generation despite the reduction in forecasts. Based on the current share price and our revised 2012 free cash-flow forecasts, the stock is generating a free cash-flow yield of over 30%. Net debt will continue to decline, which should accrete value to equity-holders, assuming no further deterioration in valuation multiples from the current depressed levels. <br>
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As we have outlined previously, trough EBITDA in this cycle is likely to be over &#128;800m (versus &#128;741m at the last trough in 2009). This assumes that only a small percentage of the cost-saving programmes will be sustained. Based on this estimate of trough EBITDA, the stock is trading at 4.7 times. This is in line with the trough in Q1 2009. Since then, net debt has declined by over &#128;300m and the net debt/EBITDA ratio has fallen from over 4.0 times to 2.9 times based on the potential trough. <br>
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Applying a more normal trough multiple of 6 times implies a price target of over 900c. We believe therefore that the stock has been oversold and reiterate our 'outperform' rating. By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:53:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>CEO: "2nd half demand will be soft"</title>
<description><![CDATA[ REUTERS<br>
6 OCT 2011<br>
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Irish packaging group Smurfit Kappa said on Thursday it would hang on to its Venezuelan land in what it described as a battle of wills against plans by President Hugo Chavez to take it over. <br>
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Chavez urged his agriculture minister to speed up the government takeover of land owned by Smurfit in August after first ordering the seizure of a eucalyptus tree farm belonging to the Dublin-based company in 2009. <br>
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Smurfit, which owns forestry land, plants and mills in over 30 countries from Russia to the Dominican Republic, said it expected more calls from Chavez ahead of elections in a year's time but that the company was not concerned. <br>
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&quot;Land is a big populist subject for Chavez and his merry men, and they have a view that forestry is negative,&quot; Gary McGann said at a conference broadcast from New York. &quot;Coming up to an election, he likes to give land to the people. <br>
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&quot;You'll get continuous noise, particularly as the election comes closer, and I won't say that there won't be changes, but we'll continue to be able to access our forests and our trees and make paper. <br>
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&quot;It's a battle of wills all the way, and our forestry and mill people are basically having none of it.&quot; <br>
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Smurfit said it owns 35,000 hectares of forestry land in Venezuela. The land seizure ordered two years ago involved 3,700 acres. <br>
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Chavez has nationalised large swathes of Venezuela's economy, including much of its vital oil sector, and has taken over big farms deemed idle, giving them to small farmers in an effort to stimulate farming and combat poverty. <br>
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McGann said Venezuelan retail business needed Smurfit's services. <br>
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&quot;Without us, there won't be any products packaged in Venezuela, and that would be a serious problem. As it is, a lot of products on the supermarket shelves are in short supply. If they haven't got packaging, they are going to be in serious short supply.&quot; <br>
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SOFTENING DEMAND <br>
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Smurfit's Latin American operations accounted for 22 percent of its 507 million euro first-half adjusted earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA), thanks to strong performances from Venezuela and Argentina. <br>
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Smurfit reaffirmed it full-year targets for 2011 on Thursday, saying it was still targeting a reduction of its total net debt to 2.85 billion euros by the end of the year from 3 billion at end-June. <br>
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McGann added that the group saw demand in its European businesses softening in the second half of the year as a result of countries cutting their gross domestic product (GDP) forecasts. <br>
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&quot;A good benchmark for our business in general is GDP, so the GDP growth levels that you begin to see reforecasting in Europe at about 1.5 percent really says second half (demand) will be soft,&quot; McGann said. <br>
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&quot;Obviously the mix between Eastern Europe and Western Europe is quite significant.&quot; By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:21:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: DEBT</title>
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sorry i meant 2013 and they are planning to refinance<br>
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Huge value in this stock By value7 ]]></description> 
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<description><![CDATA[ any news of refinancing his debt? they have to repay some debt by december 2012 that they cant afford By value7 ]]></description> 
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<title>CEO: "Massive fundamentals"</title>
<description><![CDATA[ INDEPENDENT.IE<br>
11 AUGUST 2011<br>
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A massive sell-off of stock in packaging group Smurfit Kappa in the past couple of weeks has partly reflected a failure to grasp strong fundamentals within the company, its chief executive Gary McGann claimed yesterday.<br>
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Speaking to the Irish Independent as Smurfit Kappa recorded a 20pc jump in earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA) to &#128;264m in the second quarter and a 10pc rise in revenue to &#128;1.86bn, Mr McGann conceded that many investors remained uncomfortable with both cyclical and leveraged companies, but insisted they had ignored &quot;massive fundamentals&quot;.<br>
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Mr McGann said that Smurfit Kappa, which is Europe's leading producer of cardboard packaging products, had achieved a number of goals, including an improved net asset base and greater efficiencies in the past couple of years.<br>
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&quot;Some people are talking about whether this is the top of a cycle or a break in the cycle, but this is not a normal industry cycle,&quot; he said.<br>
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The company's shares have been hit hard amid recent global financial turmoil, although Mr McGann said that demand, as far ahead as the group had visibility, had remained strong, particularly in key markets such as Germany.<br>
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He added that while domestic demand within countries it operated in was important, a significant amount of the packaging it manufactured in countries including Germany and the Netherlands was destined for use in exports.<br>
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&quot;It's one of the great advantages of being big and diverse,&quot; he said regarding turbulence in Europe. &quot;You're not immune from it, but you can mitigate against it.&quot; By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:22:00 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Smurfit sees no downturn, but can't rule one out</title>
<description><![CDATA[ Smurfit sees no downturn, but can't rule one out<br>
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10 AUGUST 2011<br>
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Irish packaging group Smurfit Kappa has seen no evidence of a downturn in its business since earnings grew by 25 percent in the first half of the year but can't rule out such a development, its chief executive said on Wednesday. <br>
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&quot;We do not believe in the current climate that we are in a typical industry cycle move. We see significant uncertainty which is effectively governed by sovereign issues in both Europe and the U.S.,&quot; Gary McGann told analysts in a conference call. <br>
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&quot;While we do not see any immediate downturn in our business in July or indeed alarm bells in August, obviously in this current climate of uncertainty we can't rule it out. If we do see any impact ... we are in better shape than we were previously.&quot; By vpascalg ]]></description> 
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